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		<description><![CDATA[Seminary, Ordination, and Denominationalism The blogosphere was still abuzz on this topic for another week. If you&#8217;ve missed out on the conversation, check out my links here. If I missed any posts, drop a note in the comments. A condensed and modified version of my Irrelevance of Seminary series at GoingtoSeminary.com. A pastor responds to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Seminary, Ordination, and Denominationalism</h2>
<p>The blogosphere was still abuzz on this topic for another week. If you&#8217;ve missed out on the conversation, check out my <a href="http://216.172.176.119/~mattclea//2009/05/10/linkworthy-51009/" target="_blank">links here</a>. If I missed any posts, drop a note in the comments.<a href="http://www.goingtoseminary.com/is-seminary-relevant-the-contra-argument/" target="_blank"></a></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.goingtoseminary.com/is-seminary-relevant-the-contra-argument/" target="_blank">A condensed and modified version</a> of my Irrelevance of Seminary series at GoingtoSeminary.com.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.doulosresources.org/transition/placement_reflections/placement_reflections.php?id=4173334826184989665" target="_blank">A pastor responds</a> to my post over at GoingtoSerminary.com</li>
<li><a href="http://www.blackcoffeereflections.com/reflecting-on-adam-walker-cleavelands-ordination/05/" target="_blank">Reflections on Adam&#8217;s Ordination</a> &#8211; This time by Tim.</li>
<li><a href="http://erikullestad.blogspot.com/2009/05/weighing-in.html" target="_blank">Weighing in on Ordination</a> &#8211; Erik posts his thoughts.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.larsrood.com/blog/2009/05/the-ordination-process-in-the-pcusa-can-be-rough.html" target="_blank">The Ordination Process in the PC(USA)</a> &#8211; By Lars Rood, someone who has been there, didn&#8217;t do it, and is back again.</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/tonyjones/2009/05/reconsider-ordination-now-cont.html" target="_blank">Reconsider Ordination. Now.</a> &#8211; Tony Jones is still at it this week.</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/tonyjones/2009/05/an-anti--ordination-sermon.html" target="_blank">An (Anti-) Ordination Sermon</a> &#8211; By Tony Jones.</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/tonyjones/2009/05/ordination-housekeeping.html" target="_blank">Tony Jones responds</a> to comments about his recent ordination posts.</li>
<li>A female seminarian <a href="http://accidentalseminarian.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/why-i-believe-going-to-seminary-is-relevant/" target="_blank">on its relevance</a></li>
<li><a href="http://notes-from-offcenter.com/2009/05/14/on-denominationalism/" target="_blank">A graphical representation of denominationalism</a> &#8211; And some good commentary as well.</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.beliefnet.com/tonyjones/2009/05/is-there-ordination-in-the-did.html" target="_blank">Ordination in the Didache</a> &#8211; Tony says the Didache doens&#8217;t support ordination.</li>
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<h2>Youth Ministry</h2>
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<li><a href="http://www.youthspecialties.com/blog/2009/rummage-sale-may-29th/" target="_blank">Youth Specialties is having a garage sale</a>- Live in Southern California? YS might have stuff you need on the cheap: youth ministry stuff, books, office supplies, and who knows what sorts of random stuff.</li>
<li><a href="http://zenhabits.net/2009/05/the-art-of-the-small-how-to-make-an-impact/" target="_blank">The Art of Small: How to Make an Impact</a> &#8211; Those of us in youth ministry often battle feelings of inadequacy because of the size of our group. Some good thoughts on smallness here.</li>
<li><a href="http://rethinkingyouth.blogspot.com/2009/05/rethinking-church-camp-2009.html" target="_blank">Rethinking Church Camp</a> &#8211; A good list of links from the guys at Rethinking Youth Ministry. Good things to consider if you are doing a camp this year.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.smalltownyouthpastor.com/2009/05/theological-thursday-the-nondifference-between-youth-adult-ministry/" target="_blank">The Difference Between Youth &amp; Adult Ministry</a> &#8211; Jeremy disagrees with Desiring God and says that there are fundamental differences in youth and adult ministry.</li>
<li>Josh Griffin on <a href="http://www.morethandodgeball.com/my-6-steps-to-preparing-a-youth-ministry-talk/" target="_blank">preparing a youth sermon.</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ramblingsofpassion.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/student-teaching-pool/" target="_blank">Student Teaching Pool</a> &#8211; Adam has a simple but radical idea.</li>
<li><a href="http://dixonkinser.blogspot.com/2009/05/film-school-new-series.html" target="_blank">Film School</a> &#8211; Glory, Dixon Kinser is posting again. Here&#8217;s the first part in the Film School series, <a href="http://dixonkinser.blogspot.com/2009/05/film-school-dark-knight.html" target="_blank">The Dark Night</a>.</li>
<li>Chris finished his series on the jobs of a small group leader. Here&#8217;s <a href="http://myradeus.com/pastorchris/pastorchris/the-4-jobs-of-a-small-group-leader-3-of-4/" target="_blank">part 3</a> and <a href="http://myradeus.com/pastorchris/pastorchris/the-4-jobs-of-a-small-group-leader-4-of-4/" target="_blank">part 4</a>.</li>
<li><a href="http://emergingyouth.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/shift2-from-the-sacred-to-the-secularspiritual-in-youth-ministry/" target="_blank">Shifting from Sacred to Secular/Spiritual</a> &#8211; Dan continues his series on shifts in youth ministry.</li>
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<p><span style="font-size: 18px; font-weight: bold;">Miscellaneous &#8211; Church, mission, theology, other</span></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/the-bad-habits-of-christendom-evangelism-%E2%80%9Cthe-romans-road%E2%80%9D-the-four-spiritual-laws-evangelism-explosion-and-the-bridge-illustration-wtwnc-3/" target="_blank">Bad Habits of Christendom Evangelism</a> &#8211; David Fitch weighs in.<a href="http://dougpagitt.com/evangelsim/help-with-evangelism" target="_blank"></a></li>
<li><a href="http://dougpagitt.com/evangelsim/help-with-evangelism" target="_blank">Help Doug write a book on evangelism</a> &#8211; Surely you have an opinion.<a href="http://www.lifehack.org/articles/productivity/how-to-wake-up-and-instantly-achieve-something-everyday.html" target="_blank"></a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lifehack.org/articles/productivity/how-to-wake-up-and-instantly-achieve-something-everyday.html" target="_blank">A brilliant tip for being productive</a> &#8211; I tried this one yesterday morning and it worked great.<a href="http://adammclane.com/2009/05/14/rethink-church/" target="_blank"></a></li>
<li><a href="http://adammclane.com/2009/05/14/rethink-church/" target="_blank">Rethinking Church</a> &#8211; Adam points us to a great video. I used it as a launching point for high school Sunday school this morning.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.shaungroves.com/shlog/comments/our_witness/" target="_blank">I also used this</a> great, provocative post from Shaun Groves in Sunday school as well. (<a href="http://216.172.176.119/~mattclea//2009/05/16/mywitness-local-ideas/" target="_blank">I responded yesterday here</a>)<a href="http://adammclane.com/2009/05/11/church-of-the-world-and-not-of-the-church/" target="_blank"></a></li>
<li><a href="http://adammclane.com/2009/05/11/church-of-the-world-and-not-of-the-church/" target="_blank">Church of the World and Not of the Church</a> &#8211; Adam McLane has more great thoughts. And guess what? Used&#8230; it&#8230; in&#8230; Sunday school.</li>
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