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		<title>The Perfect Church Email Solution?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I thought this would be easy. I&#8217;m looking for a church email list management solution that I thought would be pretty simple. But apparently the features I want aren&#8217;t that easy to find. Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m looking for: The ability to send emails to different segments of a master list (youth, prayer requests, announcements, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I thought this would be easy. I&#8217;m looking for a church email list management solution that I thought would be pretty simple. But apparently the features I want aren&#8217;t that easy to find. Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m looking for:</p>
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<li>The ability to send emails to different segments of a master list (youth, prayer requests, announcements, etc.)</li>
<li>An opt-in form online for subscribers with the ability to have users choose from multiple subscription lists and manage their preferences in one place</li>
<li>Here&#8217;s where I&#8217;m having trouble:
<ul>
<li>The ability to send a message to a list segment (i.e. youth only) from my email. I don&#8217;t want to have to log in and do a huge HTML email template thing. So, I want to send an email to something like HopeLutheranRandomYouthEmailString@email.com and it automatically initiates an email to everyone in the youth segment of my list.</li>
<li>The ability to add people who are allowed to do the above. I want the secretary, the lady who manages our prayer chain, and the youth intern to be able to send out emails to their lists as well.</li>
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<p>With all the advanced email marketing solutions out there, I figured this would be no problem. In fact, I don&#8217;t really even need a fancy HTML newsletter. I just want to get information out to the appropriate groups. I&#8217;ve researched the following options and they don&#8217;t work for whatever reason:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv_license.asp" target="_blank">LISTServ</a> &#8211; This is really the solution I am probably looking for, but it&#8217;s kinda complex and expensive. I&#8217;m still unsure if it has the ease of use for subscribers to manage their preferences, too.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.mailchimp.com/" target="_blank">MailChimp</a> &#8211; Everyone I talk to who has used MailChimp loves it, but it won&#8217;t do what I want. I love their subscription forms and user management. It would be easy for anyone to subscribe to and manage different email lists. The problem is that there is no way to send from email directly to a list without logging into the MailChimp website.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.listbox.com/" target="_blank">ListBox</a> &#8211; This almost had what I wanted, but there was no way for users to add themselves to multiple lists at one time. Each separate list needed a new form to be filled out.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.jangomail.com" target="_blank">JangoMail</a> &#8211; I think this might do what I want, but it&#8217;s a bit pricey compared to the others.</li>
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<p>I feel like I&#8217;m looking in all the wrong places. Surely there&#8217;s a way to do what I want to do for a reasonable price. For the amount of functionality a service like MailChimp offers at a great price, I really don&#8217;t want to pay through the nose for the simple features I&#8217;m looking for.</p>
<p>Does anyone have any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>My Dream Youth Ministry Communication Application</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it doesn&#8217;t exist yet, but I wish it did. If any super web-savvy people (who also happen to have a ton of money or can get people to invest) could pull this off, they could make a killing off of this idea for an application. It would be especially helpful in youth ministry but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t exist yet, but I wish it did. If any super web-savvy people (who also happen to have a ton of money or can get people to invest) could pull this off, they could make a <em>killing </em>off of this idea for an application. It would be especially helpful in youth ministry but organizations of all sorts could benefit. Heck, maybe it&#8217;s out there and I haven&#8217;t found it yet. Here&#8217;s my idea:</p>
<p><strong>The Concept</strong></p>
<p>The idea is a one-stop place online to manage all contact information for everyone that needs to get information from you: parents, students, whatever. With all the information on that site, you go to one place, type in information you want to send to everyone, and then it sends it out in whatever format it needs to depending on which avenues of communication people have signed up for.</p>
<p><strong>Outputting Information</strong></p>
<p>In order to streamline communication, one input on the site (i.e. &#8220;Mission Trip deposits due tomorrow&#8221;) would be automatically converted as necessary and distributed through the following avenues to each member of the group depending on what accounts they have set up.  I think with all the APIs and third party apps floating around out there that most, if not all of the following would be possible.</p>
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<li>Email &#8211; Obviously teenagers don&#8217;t use this but their parents do. Still the best way for me to communicate <em>en masse</em> with parents. Depending on your platform you could also email your own youth ministry blog and automatically create a blog post.</li>
<li>Facebook wall post &#8211; I don&#8217;t think Facebook messaging is as effective as a wall post.</li>
<li>Twitter &#8211; If people have a twitter account, it gets sent there.</li>
<li>MySpace &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure if this is possible, but I still have a few kids left on MySpace and it would be nice to include them in communication.</li>
<li>Text Message &#8211; One of the best ways to inform teens of things is through texting.</li>
<li>RSS &#8211; That way if you want to do any fancy RSS-to-newsletter or automatic blog posting you can set that up.</li>
<li>Voice: phone tree message &#8211; Especially with some parents, the answering machine or voicemail is still a good form of communication. This would likely have to be input separately from the text information (but maybe not, see below), but likely wouldn&#8217;t take but a minute.</li>
<li>What else am I leaving out?</li>
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<p><strong>Inputting Information</strong></p>
<p>So, getting the information out would be pretty sweet, but inputting information could be streamlined as well</p>
<ul>
<li>Website administration interface &#8211; Obviously, you should be able to log in to your account and send out info to other people, but that may not be the more efficient way of doing things.</li>
<li>Email &#8211; It would be pretty easy to give each main account certain email addresses (different ones for each distribution group perhaps) that administrators could send an email to that would automatically be sent out through the program.</li>
<li>Text Messaging- Same goes for text. On vacation in the Bahamas and forget to remind everyone youth group is canceled? Text the info to your group&#8217;s number and everyone gets the info.</li>
<li>Voice &#8211; There might be some way to integrate this with <a href="http://jott.com" target="_blank">Jott.com</a> so you could convert voice to text and email it up to your account. And/or it could save the voice audio and automatically send that out via a phone tree while the transcript is sent out via the text avenues.</li>
<li>Twitter &#8211; Twit an @reply to a unique profile and it&#8217;s sent out to everyone.</li>
<li>Other?</li>
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<p><strong>User Management</strong></p>
<p>This would be one of the cool features. Each person could login with either their email address, their Facebook name, their cell phone number, whatever, and manage their communication options. They can input all of their account information and update things as it changes. You could have different lists set up for devotionals, announcements, Confirmation, High School, Junior High and people could subscribe or unsubscribe to them as they like. With this setup, the whole church could be on the same account and people just subscribe to the relevant information. Then, when you want to tell people to bring cookies to Youth Night Out, the program sends it out to everyone on the appropriate list via all the communication avenues they selected.</p>
<p>The idea is once you do all the front end work of setting up user groups all you ever have to do past that is send out information to people. No more moving people into different email lists, keeping your phone records updated, remembering to add the kid who just got a cell phone to your text messaging group. Everyone can manage all their own information.</p>
<p><strong>Can it happen?</strong></p>
<p>Well, I think it <em>can </em>happen. I just don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s cost-effective to do all of this together. I know some of these features are available as stand-alone programs that cost $20+ a month or more. That could mean $100+ a month. Is this worth $1,000 or more a year?</p>
<p>I know that a program like this would make my life much easier and allow me to hit everyone in whatever medium they use to stay in touch with people without having to go through three or four different avenues. What do you think?</p>
<p><a href="http://adammclane.com/" target="_blank">Adam McLane</a>, <a href="http://timschmoyer.com/" target="_blank">Tim Schmoyer</a>, are you listening?</p>
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