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		<title>The Podcast is Legit</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our sorry excuse for a podcast was deemed worthy of a mention by the guys at at Church Marketing Sucks. I&amp;#8217;m sure it helped that we mentioned them in the podcast. Hey, we&amp;#8217;ll take whatever press we can get.
A wee bit of discussion is happening in the comments section there. Check it out. Play nice [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our sorry excuse for a podcast was deemed worthy of a mention by the guys at at <a href="http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2008/11/a_church_market.html" target="_blank">Church Marketing Sucks</a>. I&#8217;m sure it helped that we mentioned them in the podcast. Hey, we&#8217;ll take whatever press we can get.</p>
<p>A wee bit of discussion is happening in the comments section there. Check it out. Play nice if you comment.</p>
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		<title>Gen Y Slideshow</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		
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		<description>Gavoweb posted a great slideshow about Generation Y.  One of the most interesting parts of the show is slide 11, which claims that the &amp;#8220;rite of passage&amp;#8221; for Gen Y is twofold: 9/11 and the economic meltdown (Just as the boomer rite of passage was Vietnam and the civil rights movement). It appears that &amp;#8220;rite [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gavoweb.com/hit_the_back_button_to_mo/" target="_blank">Gavoweb</a> posted a <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/scenariodna/transformer-generation-presentation?type=powerpoint" target="_blank">great slideshow about Generation Y</a>.  One of the most interesting parts of the show is slide 11, which claims that the &#8220;rite of passage&#8221; for Gen Y is twofold: 9/11 and the economic meltdown (Just as the boomer rite of passage was Vietnam and the civil rights movement). It appears that &#8220;rite of passage&#8221; in this case means some sort of shared experience of influence and maturation.</p>
<p>What is significant to me is that, if true, we are smack-dab in the middle of that maturation process right now, which means the true defining character of our generation (I&#8217;m a Gen Y-er, made it in by two years) has yet to be seen.  It will be interesting to see how it plays out.</p>
<p>I wish it was possible to hear the presentation that goes along with the show.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;d be quite interesting to hear.  Alas, why is it that amazing content about generations often comes from marketing agencies like this? (That&#8217;s a rhetorical question. I know why. I just wish some other avenues were capable of doing such great work in the field.)</p>
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		<title>Podcast Episode 0.1: Church Marketing Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next episode of our podcast is now available.  In this episode:

Branding your youth group
A plug for Soul Searching by Christian Smith
Brit denies the virgin birth
Christian consulting
Church communication, part 1

20 minutes, 22 MB.
Coming in the next episode: church bulletins (among other things).</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next episode of our podcast is now available.  In this episode:</p>
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<li>Branding your youth group</li>
<li>A plug for <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/019518095X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=mattclecom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=019518095X">Soul Searching by Christian Smith</a></li>
<li>Brit denies the virgin birth</li>
<li>Christian consulting</li>
<li>Church communication, part 1</li>
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<p>20 minutes, 22 MB.</p>
<p>Coming in the next episode: church bulletins (among other things).</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>The next episode of our podcast is now available.nbsp; In this episode:

	Branding your youth group
	A plug for Soul Searching by Christian Smith
	Brit denies the virgin ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>The next episode of our podcast is now available.nbsp; In this episode:

	Branding your youth group
	A plug for Soul Searching by Christian Smith
	Brit denies the virgin birth
	Christian consulting
	Church communication, part 1

20 minutes, 22 MB.

Coming in the next episode: church bulletins (among other things).</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Marketing as an Anti-Missional Practice</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		
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		<description>In the podcast that debuted in spectacular fashion on Saturday I made the assertion that church marketing is by nature an anti-missional practice.  Mission sends people out. Marketing seeks to bring people in.  The two are at odds with one another. Makes sense, doesn&amp;#8217;t it?
So, if you want to be a missional church, cut your [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the <a href="http://mattcleaver.com/2008/11/08/podcast-episode-0-church-marketing/" target="_blank">podcast that debuted in spectacular fashion on Saturday</a> I made the assertion that church marketing is by nature an anti-missional practice.  Mission sends people out. Marketing seeks to bring people in.  The two are at odds with one another. Makes sense, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>So, if you want to be a missional church, cut your marketing budget and use that money to send people out to minister in the community.</p>
<p>Next podcast to be posted Thursday.</p>
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		<title>Podcast Episode 0: Church Marketing</title>
		<link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/mattcleaver/~3/447061607/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend Brit and I decided we wanted to take a shot at podcasting.  So, we did.  We&amp;#8217;ve got a multi-part series on church marketing, and this is the first episode.  We&amp;#8217;ve got some ideas for the future, but right now we&amp;#8217;re just trying this whole thing out.  Check it out below (20 minutes, 22 [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ypguybrit.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">My friend Brit</a> and I decided we wanted to take a shot at podcasting.  So, we did.  We&#8217;ve got a multi-part series on church marketing, and this is the first episode.  We&#8217;ve got some ideas for the future, but right now we&#8217;re just trying this whole thing out.  Check it out below (20 minutes, 22 MB).</p>
<p>*Update* The guys at<a href="http://www.churchmarketingsucks.com/archives/2008/11/a_church_market.html" target="_blank"> Church Marketing Sucks linked to us</a>. A wee bit of discussion is happening in the comments section there. Check it out. Play nice if you comment.</p>
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		<itunes:subtitle>My friend Brit and I decided we wanted to take a shot at podcasting.nbsp; So, we did.nbsp; We've got a multi-part series on church marketing, ...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>My friend Brit and I decided we wanted to take a shot at podcasting.nbsp; So, we did.nbsp; We've got a multi-part series on church marketing, and this is the first episode.nbsp; We've got some ideas for the future, but right now we're just trying this whole thing out.nbsp; Check it out below (20 minutes, 22 MB).

*Update* The guys at Church Marketing Sucks linked to us. A wee bit of discussion is happening in the comments section there. Check it out. Play nice if you comment.</itunes:summary>
		<itunes:keywords>Podcast,,Youth,Ministry</itunes:keywords>
		<itunes:author>cleaverm@gmail.com</itunes:author>
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		<title>Why Politics is More Exciting than Christianity</title>
		<link>http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/mattcleaver/~3/443706523/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		
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		<description>Watching people&amp;#8217;s passionate involvement in the intense politics of the past month or so has been an interesting phenomenon.  We literally had millions of people working in one way or another to get their candidates elected, and last night we watched as euphoria erupted over an election of historic proportions.
It left me wondering: Why doesn&amp;#8217;t [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching people&#8217;s passionate involvement in the intense politics of the past month or so has been an interesting phenomenon.  We literally had millions of people working in one way or another to get their candidates elected, and last night we watched as euphoria erupted over an election of historic proportions.</p>
<p>It left me wondering: <em>Why doesn&#8217;t the church drum up this much excitement and passion? </em>My preliminary guess is that <em>politics offers the kind of eschatology that should be offered in the church</em>.</p>
<p>With each major election people talk and think about <em>change</em>.  New possibilites begin to form in imaginations.  &#8220;<em>What if&#8230;</em>&#8221; questions are asked and dreamed about.  Nothing is outside the realm of impossibility.  We make our stake for what we think the <em>future</em> should like like.  Changing the future is an exciting proposition.</p>
<p>In the church we talk about the past, about Jesus&#8217;s death and resurrection so that we might receive the forgiveness of sins.  And we talk about the future that awaits us after our own death and resurrection.  But we don&#8217;t often talk about the role of the church in between the two, other than the mandate for personal morality.</p>
<p>This is unfortunate because the church has a purpose other than as an incubator of souls for heaven.  <em>The church is God&#8217;s change agent</em>.  The church&#8217;s mission is found in the proclamation of the gospel, a proclamation that frees captives, heals the sick, and opens blind eyes.  Talk about new possibilities!  The church is the place where imagining a new future should be a perpetual practice, not just every four years.  <em>The church should be about the business of changing the future, not just preparing people for it. </em>We participate in bringing about God&#8217;s kingdom on earth, changing old to new, and seeing life where there once was death.</p>
<p>The passion that excites the public every four years in our politics is an eschatological passion.  And eschatology is the realm of Jesus and His church, not politics and the state.  May we learn how to live in that realm.</p>
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		<title>How Christians Can Avoid a Tax Increase Under Obama</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the 74% of white evangelicals (and other Christians) who voted for John McCain and are worried that Obama will raise your taxes:
If his tax plan goes as he plans, only families making $250,000 or more will have an increase in taxes.  If that doesn&amp;#8217;t sit well with you, you have an alternative.  Give more [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=USP00p2" target="_blank">74% of white evangelicals</a> (and other Christians) who voted for John McCain and are worried that Obama will raise your taxes:</p>
<p>If his tax plan goes as he plans, only families making $250,000 or more will have an increase in taxes.  If that doesn&#8217;t sit well with you, you have an alternative.  Give more away to your church and favorite charities.  Check with your CPA on this, but I believe up to 50% of income can be deducted for charitable contributions.  So, if you make between $250,000 and $499,999, you&#8217;ll be in the lower bracket if you give away enough money to deduct until you are under the $250k mark.</p>
<p>Problem solved.  Small businesses will have to figure something else out.</p>
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		<title>A Theology of Geography: Locality and Proximity</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&amp;#8217;m up at Luther Seminary this week for an intensive course on Singleness, Marriage, and Family.  As tends to happen, I am viewing much of this course content through the lens of ecclesiology and thinking of the implications of our discussions upon the life of the church.
On Monday (I think it was Monday&amp;#8211;things run together [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m up at <a href="http://www.luthersem.edu/" target="_blank">Luther Seminary</a> this week for an intensive course on Singleness, Marriage, and Family.  As tends to happen, I am viewing much of this course content through the lens of ecclesiology and thinking of the implications of our discussions upon the life of the church.</p>
<p>On Monday (I think it was Monday&#8211;things run together when you&#8217;re in class 8 hours a day) I had a discussion with some people in class about some implications of &#8220;relationality,&#8221; vocation, and the idolization of the &#8220;traditional&#8221; nuclear family.  In discussing Luther&#8217;s theology of vocation we eventually landed on an ecclesiological reality that I had been thinking about for some time but had trouble articulating: Local churches should be <em>local</em>.  Or as some have said, &#8220;Wherever you&#8217;re at, there you are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Luther&#8217;s understanding of vocation is, &#8220;The call to follow Christ leads not to any religious vocation removed from daily life, but instead it transforms the attitude and understanding one has of the situation in which one already is&#8221; (See Marc Kohlden&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.luthersem.edu/word&amp;world/Archives/3-4_Luther/3-4_Kolden.pdf" target="_blank">Luther on Vocation</a>&#8221; in the 1983 Word and World, page 386).  My focus is on the part of the statement that says &#8220;the situation in which one already is,&#8221; and taking that not to mean the occupational, marital, and social situations that currently exist but also one&#8217;s current <em>geographical</em> situation.  The call of Christ is a call that says, <em>look around you and live your faith in this situation, this marriage, this job, and this location. </em></p>
<p>I gather that most churches have moved beyond understanding vocation as only the call to church ministry.  It also seems that many churches have moved beyond speaking about vocation as something other than honoring God in your occupation and career, but in all areas of life.  I wonder how many have taught, and more importantly lived, vocation as living out your faith literally <em>where you are located</em>.</p>
<p>One of the problems with speaking of vocation in such a way is that our churches are anything but local.  I drive about 25 minutes to the church where I work.  There are nine ELCA churches closer to my house than the one to which we belong, one of them only a mile and a half away.  I know the vast majority of parishioners drive past dozens of churches before arriving at worship on Sunday.  To become a local church again, there would have to be major changes to existing churches or church plants that intentionally work out of a value of locality and close proximity.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m talking about churches being <em>radically</em> local, what might it look like if churches were within walking distance?</p>
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<li><strong>Churches would be smaller</strong>.  This is the most obvious observation.  If churches are within walking distance, people aren&#8217;t going to want to go far, so churches would have to be pretty small.  Maybe they wouldn&#8217;t even need a building in some cases.</li>
<li><strong>No need for parking lots, or just very small ones</strong>.  Think of the money spent to buy land and then pave over that land so people don&#8217;t have to drive their cars and walk through the mud.  No need for that when people walk to church.</li>
<li><strong>Denominationalism would die&#8230; faster</strong>.  Postmodernity seems to be bringing about the death of denominations already, but valuing close proximity would speed that process.  If churches&#8217; allegiance was to a particular locale they would be less able to cater to their own denominational supporters.  In Texas there are likely only a handful of Lutherans within walking distance of existing churches.  Baptists are another story.  Churches would be defined by shared mission, not shared denominational subscription (or tradition).</li>
<li><strong>The church would embody a counter-cultural practice that highlighted holistic living</strong>.  Most of us live in a culture that lives, works, worships, and shops in different geographic locales.  As such, our lives become disjointed and fragmented.  To do all these things in the same basic geographic area would help us to integrate ourselves into the <em>lives</em> of people rather than just their <em>functions</em> because we would see the same people over and over again in different life situations.  We would become aware of local issues of crime, taxes, education, and politics that affected the whole congregation, not just certain segments.  If people were trained to gather and worship in places close to their homes, I suspect they would begin to look for ways to live out other aspects of their lives in a similar manner.</li>
<li> T<strong>he church would embody a counter-church-culture practice of environmental stewardship</strong>.  Think about how much gas is spent by people driving to churches multiple times a week.  Especially when gas prices were skyrocketing, this was beginning to become an issue because of the financial implications.  Regardless of cost, it is still a theological issue of stewardship.  Should Christians be consuming so much driving back and forth to church?</li>
<li><strong>Community would be formed</strong>.  Children would attend the same schools, parents would shop in the same grocery stores, and families would play at the same parks.  Families would be available to pick up other people&#8217;s children from school, babysit on short notice, help repair a leaky faucet, and a whole host of other everyday tasks because they lived just minutes away from each other.  I believe many people in our congregation are willing to help one another, but it becomes difficult when round trips to other people&#8217;s homes eat up 30 minutes or more.</li>
<li><strong>Mission would become local again</strong>.  Churches could become the centerpieces of social life in communities because they would be in tune with and attentive to the needs of the local community.  In areas where after school programs were lacking, churches could step in.  Where there was a high concentration of elderly people, churches could provide needed services.  If systemic poverty was an issue, churches could provide occupational skills training.  Each church would find its mission because they were situated in a particular geographical context.  The needs of the church would by definition be the needs of the local community.  Churches would become known as positive change agents in communities again.</li>
<li><strong>Taxes would go down</strong>.  My contention is that the government does a lot of tasks and provides a lot of services that could (or should?) be provided by churches.  If churches live out their mission in their local contexts as described above, then the less government needs to fill in the gap.  Okay, well, taxes might not go down, but maybe they would not go up.</li>
<li><strong>Youth and children would not be bound by their ability to find a ride to church</strong>.  As someone in youth ministry, many things are significantly hindered because almost everything requires getting in a car and driving, even if activities are hosted at someone&#8217;s house and not the church building.  If a church is within walking distance, kids as young as elementary age would be able to walk to church or one another&#8217;s house at almost any time.</li>
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<p>Now, none of these things will absolutely happen just because people walked to church, but many of the above things are impossibilities because people come from such vastly different geographic locations that there is no consensus about needed action, awareness of local issues, or passion for mission because of the fragmented nature of the lives and membership of churches.  A whole new world of possibilities opens up when a church is truly local.</p>
<p>I am often perplexed by how much churches live and function in mirror image to our wider consumer culture and how often that hinders ministry.  <em>Is becoming local again the radical first step in making a break from the culture and redefining ourselves in light of Christ&#8217;s call?</em></p>
<p>So there we have it.  If churches really want to teach vocation, how better than to live it out by becoming truly local congregations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also interested if you can add to my bullet points above about the new possibilities that open up when churches are local.  Can you think of more?</p>
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		<description>Last night I watched Sunday&amp;#8217;s This Week with George Stephanopoulos in amazement as I saw republicans, democrats, former Treasury Secretaries, stock traders, and political commentators all agree that government ownership of financial institutions was the only option to get us out of the current financial crisis.  This would usually go against conservative principle, but they [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I watched Sunday&#8217;s <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek" target="_blank">This Week with George Stephanopoulos</a> in amazement as I saw republicans, democrats, former Treasury Secretaries, stock traders, and political commentators all agree that government ownership of financial institutions was the only option to get us out of the current financial crisis.  This would usually go against conservative principle, but they say there is no other alternative.</p>
<p>We learned later that, indeed, <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/13/news/economy/treasury_details/index.htm?postversion=2008101318" target="_blank">the federal government will begin purchasing ownership in banks</a>.  One commentator announced, &#8220;<a href="http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2008/10/were_all_socialists_now.html" target="_blank">We&#8217;re All Socialists Now</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yesterday, the Dow gained 936 points (11%) on the news.  Who knows what will happen today.</p>
<p>Is this what it feels like to live in the midst of historic times?  Will we learn anything from it?</p>
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		<description>Tony Jones makes the comment that without a wide swath of our culture subscribing to Calvinism and the &amp;#8220;protestant work ethic&amp;#8221; free market economies are a thing of the past.
Are free markets incompatible with secularism?  Is the only hope for the free markets a Third Great Awakening?  Or maybe the first Global Great Awakening?
Or, to [...]</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tonyj.net/2008/10/13/the-waning-days/" target="_blank">Tony Jones makes the comment</a> that without a wide swath of our culture subscribing to Calvinism and the &#8220;protestant work ethic&#8221; free market economies are a thing of the past.</p>
<p>Are free markets incompatible with secularism?  Is the only hope for the free markets a Third Great Awakening?  Or maybe the first Global Great Awakening?</p>
<p>Or, to put it another way, is the current financial crisis the church&#8217;s fault?</p>
<p>Update: David Fitch <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/2008/10/us-is-broke-end-of-amero-centric-global.html" target="_blank">has a great post</a> asking good questions about how this financial crisis might affect the church.</p>
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