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		<title>By: brandon riley</title>
		<link>http://mattcleaver.com/2010/06/11/recommended-books-for-every-youth-workers-library/#comment-10700</link>
		<dc:creator>brandon riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>read #2 two summers ago and couldn&#039;t put it down....was truly a pace-setter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read #2 two summers ago and couldn&#8217;t put it down&#8230;.was truly a pace-setter</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Gyura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Gyura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your post.  We have linked this page to Kenda Dean&#039;s website.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your post.  We have linked this page to Kenda Dean&#8217;s website.<br />
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - Sorry for not approving your comment sooner. I think the wordpress email that I usually get got put into spam or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; Sorry for not approving your comment sooner. I think the wordpress email that I usually get got put into spam or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, one of the reasons that I almost always include Jones&#039; book is that it was such a game-changer for me personally. It was the first book that really helped to reshape my thinking about faith and ministry. So, it may not function that way for everyone, but it does for me (quite postmodern of me, isn&#039;t it?).

As far as an introductory text for people mired within a modernistic style of ministry, I think it still fits the bill. For people who are familiar with the postmodern landscape, emergent and missional ecclesiologies, and are theologically grounded there are probably better places for people to spend their time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, one of the reasons that I almost always include Jones&#8217; book is that it was such a game-changer for me personally. It was the first book that really helped to reshape my thinking about faith and ministry. So, it may not function that way for everyone, but it does for me (quite postmodern of me, isn&#8217;t it?).</p>
<p>As far as an introductory text for people mired within a modernistic style of ministry, I think it still fits the bill. For people who are familiar with the postmodern landscape, emergent and missional ecclesiologies, and are theologically grounded there are probably better places for people to spend their time.</p>
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		<title>By: John Vest</title>
		<link>http://mattcleaver.com/2010/06/11/recommended-books-for-every-youth-workers-library/#comment-10696</link>
		<dc:creator>John Vest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was interested to see that you included Postmodern Youth Ministry by Tony Jones.  I was wondering if anyone still reads this.  I like Tony and enjoy his books, but this one drives me nuts.  It takes huge leaps in the right direction in terms of thinking about youth ministry in a postmodern context, but essentially remains mired in the (very modernist) trappings of conservative youth ministry (and ministry in general).

I wonder what Tony thinks of it now, because it seems like his theology has evolved considerably since writing this book.  But, maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested to see that you included Postmodern Youth Ministry by Tony Jones.  I was wondering if anyone still reads this.  I like Tony and enjoy his books, but this one drives me nuts.  It takes huge leaps in the right direction in terms of thinking about youth ministry in a postmodern context, but essentially remains mired in the (very modernist) trappings of conservative youth ministry (and ministry in general).</p>
<p>I wonder what Tony thinks of it now, because it seems like his theology has evolved considerably since writing this book.  But, maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s not a traditional psychology text, but it probably brings up enough to cover enough of the bases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s not a traditional psychology text, but it probably brings up enough to cover enough of the bases.</p>
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		<title>By: alaina</title>
		<link>http://mattcleaver.com/2010/06/11/recommended-books-for-every-youth-workers-library/#comment-10694</link>
		<dc:creator>alaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i didn&#039;t click through the links and didn&#039;t get that impression from your first description.  thanks for clarifying.  i&#039;d add it to my list, it sounds really interesting... but my optional reading opportunities as the days of grad school required reading are upon me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i didn&#8217;t click through the links and didn&#8217;t get that impression from your first description.  thanks for clarifying.  i&#8217;d add it to my list, it sounds really interesting&#8230; but my optional reading opportunities as the days of grad school required reading are upon me. <img src='http://mattcleaver.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On developmental texts, I considered that and decided that &lt;em&gt;Teen 2.0&lt;/em&gt; covered those bases. Dr. Epstein is the former Editor-in-Chief of &lt;em&gt;Psychology Today&lt;/em&gt;. He actually critiques much popular adolescent developmental psychology, so I let that book stand as the psychology text in this group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On developmental texts, I considered that and decided that <em>Teen 2.0</em> covered those bases. Dr. Epstein is the former Editor-in-Chief of <em>Psychology Today</em>. He actually critiques much popular adolescent developmental psychology, so I let that book stand as the psychology text in this group.</p>
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		<title>By: alaina</title>
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		<dc:creator>alaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a good developmental book should be included.  it doesn&#039;t have to be inordinately technical, but so many issues kids deal with are physiological or pyscho-social.  we need to understand the bodies and brains of our young people.

as for which... i&#039;m not sure.

i&#039;ve enjoyed rehashing what i&#039;ve learned in reviving ophelia and queenbees and wannabes, but those are focused on female development (though not exclusively.)

or perhaps something by david elkind, I haven&#039;t exhausted his contribution to the pyschological development of children, but i have always walked away from his books with a deeper understanding of child development.

i also (perhaps sadistically) enjoyed hara estroff marano&#039;s nation of wimps.  it is more of a cultural commentary on psycho-social development, and could read like a horror story, but in reflection has encouraged me to broaden my educational techniques.

i think the middle school ministry handbook by oestreicher &amp; rubin has a few good chapters on the subject for middle schoolers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a good developmental book should be included.  it doesn&#8217;t have to be inordinately technical, but so many issues kids deal with are physiological or pyscho-social.  we need to understand the bodies and brains of our young people.</p>
<p>as for which&#8230; i&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve enjoyed rehashing what i&#8217;ve learned in reviving ophelia and queenbees and wannabes, but those are focused on female development (though not exclusively.)</p>
<p>or perhaps something by david elkind, I haven&#8217;t exhausted his contribution to the pyschological development of children, but i have always walked away from his books with a deeper understanding of child development.</p>
<p>i also (perhaps sadistically) enjoyed hara estroff marano&#8217;s nation of wimps.  it is more of a cultural commentary on psycho-social development, and could read like a horror story, but in reflection has encouraged me to broaden my educational techniques.</p>
<p>i think the middle school ministry handbook by oestreicher &amp; rubin has a few good chapters on the subject for middle schoolers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Haugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Haugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great ideas Matt.  thanks for sharing.
I like and appreciate your idea of broad topics (old, missional, etc..)
and your examples 1-4 are right on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great ideas Matt.  thanks for sharing.<br />
I like and appreciate your idea of broad topics (old, missional, etc..)<br />
and your examples 1-4 are right on</p>
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