Comments on: Best Youth Ministry Books: Youth Ministry 3.0 by Mark Ostreicher http://mattcleaver.com/2009/04/22/best-youth-ministry-books-youth-ministry-30-by-mark-ostreicher/ youth ministry, reimagined Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:26:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Thoughts on Youth Ministry 3.0 | Today I Will Notice http://mattcleaver.com/2009/04/22/best-youth-ministry-books-youth-ministry-30-by-mark-ostreicher/#comment-8731 Thoughts on Youth Ministry 3.0 | Today I Will Notice Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:52:05 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=1039#comment-8731 [...] have no idea what book I’m talking about check it out here as well as some good reflections here from a seminary classmate Matt [...] [...] have no idea what book I’m talking about check it out here as well as some good reflections here from a seminary classmate Matt [...]

]]> By: Matt http://mattcleaver.com/2009/04/22/best-youth-ministry-books-youth-ministry-30-by-mark-ostreicher/#comment-8730 Matt Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:38:20 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=1039#comment-8730 Hey Brian, glad we agree. Actually, my language was a little sloppy there. As I said, it is still a message. But the way we understand the proclamation of the message is changing. We're still proclaiming the message, but realizing that not only is it a message of personal salvation, but also of communal transformation. Hey Brian, glad we agree. Actually, my language was a little sloppy there. As I said, it is still a message. But the way we understand the proclamation of the message is changing. We’re still proclaiming the message, but realizing that not only is it a message of personal salvation, but also of communal transformation.

]]> By: brian http://mattcleaver.com/2009/04/22/best-youth-ministry-books-youth-ministry-30-by-mark-ostreicher/#comment-8729 brian Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:17:06 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=1039#comment-8729 "The gospel is no longer a message the the church proclaims, but it is a message that the church bears in it’s essence..." not so much. it IS a message, always has been always will be. “The gospel is no longer a message the the church proclaims, but it is a message that the church bears in it’s essence…”

not so much.
it IS a message, always has been always will be.

]]> By: Matt http://mattcleaver.com/2009/04/22/best-youth-ministry-books-youth-ministry-30-by-mark-ostreicher/#comment-8728 Matt Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:41:23 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=1039#comment-8728 Sure thing. Thanks for being bold enough to write the book and realize the important role YS plays in helping to make the 3.0 shift. Sure thing. Thanks for being bold enough to write the book and realize the important role YS plays in helping to make the 3.0 shift.

]]> By: marko http://mattcleaver.com/2009/04/22/best-youth-ministry-books-youth-ministry-30-by-mark-ostreicher/#comment-8727 marko Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:30:04 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=1039#comment-8727 wow -- great review, and really good push-back. thanks! wow — great review, and really good push-back. thanks!

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