Comments on: My Dream Youth Ministry Communication Application http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/ youth ministry, reimagined Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:26:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: justin http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7699 justin Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:03:03 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7699 www.tuggle.it ? http://www.tuggle.it ?

]]> By: Matt http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7698 Matt Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:46:21 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7698 Tim, good thoughts. It would be nice to just train people to go to one place for information, but I tried that for a while and haven't had success doing that. Maybe I wasn't using the right medium. I guess the reasoning behind my idea is that even if only 2% of our kids (or adults) use facebook to keep up with youth group, a program like this would put that information where they are most likely to see it without any extra work on our part. However, video integration would be cool as well. You could record a video, upload it, and it would automatically post to your youth group website and then the audio would go out through a phone tree. Tim, good thoughts.

It would be nice to just train people to go to one place for information, but I tried that for a while and haven’t had success doing that. Maybe I wasn’t using the right medium.

I guess the reasoning behind my idea is that even if only 2% of our kids (or adults) use facebook to keep up with youth group, a program like this would put that information where they are most likely to see it without any extra work on our part.

However, video integration would be cool as well. You could record a video, upload it, and it would automatically post to your youth group website and then the audio would go out through a phone tree.

]]> By: Tim Schmoyer http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7697 Tim Schmoyer Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:00:15 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7697 Sorry I'm a bit late to this conversation. Sounds like a good concept in theory, but I think we're missing one essential element: you're assuming that just because you put the information where you THINK kids will see it then they must somehow look at it. Makes sense. I mean, it sounds logical, but I'm learning more than more that it really isn't. For example, I though Facebook messages were the perfect way to communicate youth group information with my kids because they're all active on the site. So, I formed a group and we have a lot of kids in it. A couple times I decided to put some tracking links in the messages to see if people were actually lookging at the messages or not. Turns out that only 2% of the actually look at the messages! Freakin' 2%! That's not even worth the two minutes it takes to type it up. Fortunately, I've found that video works great for communicating information for our group, so I'm sticking with that until it morphs to something else. Consider how well-trained our kids are at shutting out ads and marketing pitches. Sometimes they throw YG in the same category, unfortunately. Just because you put it in front of them, don't assume they're looking at it. In fact, I bet you'll find that using multiple venues of communication isn't as effective as actually training them to use only one or two that you choose. I'm speaking on this very topic at the National Youth Ministry Conference this weekend. Maybe they'll let me record it for you guys. Sorry I’m a bit late to this conversation. Sounds like a good concept in theory, but I think we’re missing one essential element: you’re assuming that just because you put the information where you THINK kids will see it then they must somehow look at it. Makes sense. I mean, it sounds logical, but I’m learning more than more that it really isn’t.

For example, I though Facebook messages were the perfect way to communicate youth group information with my kids because they’re all active on the site. So, I formed a group and we have a lot of kids in it. A couple times I decided to put some tracking links in the messages to see if people were actually lookging at the messages or not. Turns out that only 2% of the actually look at the messages! Freakin’ 2%! That’s not even worth the two minutes it takes to type it up.

Fortunately, I’ve found that video works great for communicating information for our group, so I’m sticking with that until it morphs to something else.

Consider how well-trained our kids are at shutting out ads and marketing pitches. Sometimes they throw YG in the same category, unfortunately. Just because you put it in front of them, don’t assume they’re looking at it. In fact, I bet you’ll find that using multiple venues of communication isn’t as effective as actually training them to use only one or two that you choose.

I’m speaking on this very topic at the National Youth Ministry Conference this weekend. Maybe they’ll let me record it for you guys.

]]> By: CGibson http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7696 CGibson Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:05:11 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7696 broadtexter.com is pretty good for the text message. also txtsignal.com broadtexter.com is pretty good for the text message. also txtsignal.com

]]> By: FREE and easy group texting for youth ministry with Tatango » JakeBouma.com http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7695 FREE and easy group texting for youth ministry with Tatango » JakeBouma.com Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:10:48 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7695 [...] and easily with teenagers and parents is one of the most important parts of the job. Even though a perfect solution to the communication conundrum doesn’t exist, Tatango makes the process significantly easier, [...] [...] and easily with teenagers and parents is one of the most important parts of the job. Even though a perfect solution to the communication conundrum doesn’t exist, Tatango makes the process significantly easier, [...]

]]> By: Matt http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7694 Matt Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:35:29 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7694 Sweeet. Sweeet.

]]> By: adam mclane http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7693 adam mclane Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:10:51 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7693 Yeah, this wasn't a Micky Mouse deal. Not something that a guy played with to create, real project, real money invested, it just flopped because of monetization... when it was shown to me several months ago I told him it could be bigger to YM than the invention of chubby bunny. Like I said, it did some things you haven't dreamed of but would go... well that makes sense. I'll see if I can dig up more info. Yeah, this wasn’t a Micky Mouse deal. Not something that a guy played with to create, real project, real money invested, it just flopped because of monetization… when it was shown to me several months ago I told him it could be bigger to YM than the invention of chubby bunny. Like I said, it did some things you haven’t dreamed of but would go… well that makes sense.

I’ll see if I can dig up more info.

]]> By: Matt http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7692 Matt Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:50:16 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7692 @Grahame - Haha, sometimes it seems like we're supposed to be able to do that already. @Adam - Farting. Nice youth ministry tie-in. Now you've got me curious (but not because of the farting). @Grahame – Haha, sometimes it seems like we’re supposed to be able to do that already.

@Adam – Farting. Nice youth ministry tie-in.

Now you’ve got me curious (but not because of the farting).

]]> By: adam mclane http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7691 adam mclane Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:41:17 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7691 What I tested didn't seem to have any major bugs. If you couldn't use this... it was about as easy as farting. What I tested didn’t seem to have any major bugs. If you couldn’t use this… it was about as easy as farting.

]]> By: Grahame http://mattcleaver.com/2009/02/18/my-dream-youth-ministry-communication-application/#comment-7690 Grahame Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:18:05 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/?p=579#comment-7690 What else am I leaving out?....I heard telepathy can work really well :-) What else am I leaving out?….I heard telepathy can work really well :-)

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