Comments on: Examining Dare 2 Share’s Deep and Wide Youth Ministry Thesis: Part 3 http://mattcleaver.com/2008/05/21/examining-dare-2-share%e2%80%99s-deep-and-wide-youth-ministry-thesis-part-3/ youth ministry, reimagined Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:26:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Matt http://mattcleaver.com/2008/05/21/examining-dare-2-share%e2%80%99s-deep-and-wide-youth-ministry-thesis-part-3/#comment-6633 Matt Thu, 22 May 2008 04:09:10 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/2008/05/21/examining-dare-2-share%e2%80%99s-deep-and-wide-youth-ministry-thesis-part-3/#comment-6633 Brit: "Anyone who knows me knows I am not close to an individualist when it comes to Christianity, but when a person is 100% reliant upon someone else to grow the natural result is to become a Christian consumer. We do need to coach them to be able to do some of the training on their own. Good thoughts here." And, wise move on not spending the $2k. Brit:

“Anyone who knows me knows I am not close to an individualist when it comes to Christianity, but when a person is 100% reliant upon someone else to grow the natural result is to become a Christian consumer. We do need to coach them to be able to do some of the training on their own. Good thoughts here.”

And, wise move on not spending the $2k.

]]> By: Brit http://mattcleaver.com/2008/05/21/examining-dare-2-share%e2%80%99s-deep-and-wide-youth-ministry-thesis-part-3/#comment-6632 Brit Thu, 22 May 2008 03:36:32 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/2008/05/21/examining-dare-2-share%e2%80%99s-deep-and-wide-youth-ministry-thesis-part-3/#comment-6632 "own their faith to the extent that they can continue to grow and mature by themselves" easy killer. your starting to sound very individualistic ;-) but i know what you mean. it is a hard road to travel but how do we teach the both and truth? i agree with your comment on trivializing...on a broader topic we do it in almost everything we do in ministry with teenagers, when it comes to their problems, the messages we share, programs we run, the texts we may send, the doctrine we try to teach... instead of tritism...i like to call it a failed attempt at parable teaching :-) we fail to truly see how Jesus taught using metaphor, simply raw ideas and life stories that are able to hold the mystery of the gospel in them... any ways ps matt the domain name i want is $1,788.97....hahahahahaha i think not my friend “own their faith to the extent that they can continue to grow and mature by themselves”
easy killer. your starting to sound very individualistic ;-)

but i know what you mean. it is a hard road to travel but how do we teach the both and truth?

i agree with your comment on trivializing…on a broader topic we do it in almost everything we do in ministry with teenagers, when it comes to their problems, the messages we share, programs we run, the texts we may send, the doctrine we try to teach… instead of tritism…i like to call it a failed attempt at parable teaching :-)

we fail to truly see how Jesus taught using metaphor, simply raw ideas and life stories that are able to hold the mystery of the gospel in them…

any ways
ps matt the domain name i want is $1,788.97….hahahahahaha i think not my friend

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