Comments on: Neo-Youth Ministry Methods: Local and Contextual

By: MattCleaver.com » Examining Dare 2 Share’s “Deep and Wide Youth Ministry Thesis”: Introductory Thoughts

Tue, 13 May 2008 14:20:22 +0000

[...] D2S is full of people trying to do the best they can for the kingdom. I applaud their motives. But, as I’ve posted before, I don’t believe that motivations mean a whole [...]

By: Neo-Youth Ministry Interlude « Mattopia

Neo-Youth Ministry Interlude « Mattopia — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:02:28 +0000

[...] and theological basis of a lot of my convictions. For instance, you may be asking why in my recent post I think that local and contextual is better than big and pre-packaged. I have many a biblical and [...]

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:22:28 +0000

Heath -

Absolutely. My office line at church is 972-291-7902.

By: Brit Windel

Brit Windel — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:22:02 +0000

:-X
do it!

By: Heath Stoner

Heath Stoner — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:46:22 +0000

Matt,

Good morning! I am the Director of the Dallas Acquire the Fire. I was reading over your thoughts and would love to discuss what you are currently doing with your youth ministry and your students. I would really enjoy discussing your ideas and how I may be able to assist you at all. Please let me know, at your leisure, if and when I may give you a call so we can talk.

God Bless You and Your Students,

Heath

By: Heath Stoner

Heath Stoner — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:37:32 +0000

Matt,

Good morning! I am the Director of the Dallas Acquire The Fire. Is there a time that I can give you a call and talk to you? I want to hear some more of your thoughts on youth ministry and what you are currently doing with your students. I would just enjoy talking to you and potentially bouncing ideas off of each other.

God Bless you and your students,

Heath

By: Brit Windel

Brit Windel — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:44:00 +0000

made some great points as usual mr. cleaver. and you know i agree with you on your thoughts. but it does lead me to think about our culture today. we make the statements of what would Calvin and luther do if they had internet today. or even a computer or typewriter. imagine how much more they could have written. we live in a time where we have the ability for mass(ive) worship and mass communication that in those days not so much. i really enjoy big worship gatherings for the since that i’m working with family that i may never meet again. now this is a since that i have fostered and grown into that i know most teenagers don’t process as of yet or may never will…(i know your not saying that Big events are totally awful) but i would say if done well (which is the key) and with a purpose (beyond the sustaining) and to have a proper ethos of why (which is something that needs to be addressed ei, promote a new cd and book line via louie g. and chris t.) these events can be very beneficial in showing our teenagers a different scope of worship and message.
i think you also raise a great thought about Christian celebrities which is very scary. you should come over here to the Uk…there are no celebrities and they don’t know ours…its nice..kinda until you talk about a worship leader and a song and they are like what whose that. i guess i said all that to say i agree with you but want to play the advocate and say that in our society of mass media and global pursuit where does local fit into our current progression’s of global domination and pursuit’s

By: pastornoah

pastornoah — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:47:27 +0000

Well said, as usual. Did i telll you that the ATF guy called me back to see if I had made a decision….(funny)

By: Tammie

Tammie — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:40:16 +0000

You are sooo right when you say, “They all claim to change your youth group’s lives. If they really did, they would work themselves out of a job.”

By: Jeff Greathouse

Jeff Greathouse — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:22:08 +0000

Excellent.