Comments on: The Next 50 Years of Youth Ministry: Becoming Theologians http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/ theology. youth ministry. life. join the conversation. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:55:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Matt http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-12512 Matt Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:26:22 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-12512 Tony, Those questions are where most of us get our start, me included. One of my points is that we have to ask, "Is what we do and they way we do it in coherence with what we believe?" We say we believe in the overwhelming power of the gospel but use gimmicks from business and marketing tactics to grow our ministries. In my opinion much of common youth ministry practice is contradictory to what we say we believe. And I am definitely a fan of a mentoring approach to discipleship. Tony, Those questions are where most of us get our start, me included. One of my points is that we have to ask, “Is what we do and they way we do it in coherence with what we believe?” We say we believe in the overwhelming power of the gospel but use gimmicks from business and marketing tactics to grow our ministries. In my opinion much of common youth ministry practice is contradictory to what we say we believe.

And I am definitely a fan of a mentoring approach to discipleship.

]]> By: Tony York http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-12377 Tony York Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:02:43 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-12377 I am a lay person who works specifically with 10,11,12 grade students. There are two questions that I try to get the students to think about. What do they believe? and more importantly, Why do they believe it? That is how I began my theological path in life. I left the church at age 19 and did not return until I was 32. My church did not have a youth group or, for that matter, any type of discipling or mentoring process. Out of the two - I believe a mentor would have done for me in discipling me than classes would have. I am a lay person who works specifically with 10,11,12 grade students.

There are two questions that I try to get the students to think about. What do they believe? and more importantly, Why do they believe it? That is how I began my theological path in life. I left the church at age 19 and did not return until I was 32. My church did not have a youth group or, for that matter, any type of discipling or mentoring process. Out of the two - I believe a mentor would have done for me in discipling me than classes would have.

]]> By: DLE http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-142 DLE Sun, 19 Nov 2006 01:17:47 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-142 Matt, Thanks for the link. Sorry for the late thanks; for some reason this never showed up in my backlink list. Blessings. Matt,

Thanks for the link. Sorry for the late thanks; for some reason this never showed up in my backlink list.

Blessings.

]]> By: The Freedom of Failure « http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-143 The Freedom of Failure « Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:26:52 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-143 [...] So, my post a couple of weeks ago may have been a bit on the negative side. I talked about the doom and gloom of youth ministry and how if it didn’t change, it would simply die. If anyone happened to read the post, they probably would have thought I was a pretty stark pessimist. [...] [...] So, my post a couple of weeks ago may have been a bit on the negative side. I talked about the doom and gloom of youth ministry and how if it didn’t change, it would simply die. If anyone happened to read the post, they probably would have thought I was a pretty stark pessimist. [...]

]]> By: ysmarko http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-141 ysmarko Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:48:12 +0000 http://mattcleaver.com/2006/10/05/the-next-50-years-of-youth-ministry-becoming-theologians/#comment-141 [...] other bloggers who have posted on this: lev’s blog theoquest daron bilyeu tony sheng pete lev (two posts) joel newton phil goodacre gman mattopia 28 Comments so far Leave a comment [...] [...] other bloggers who have posted on this: lev’s blog theoquest daron bilyeu tony sheng pete lev (two posts) joel newton phil goodacre gman mattopia 28 Comments so far Leave a comment [...]

]]>